Saturday, October 7, 2023

Where There is Wisdom

 By Jerry Huerta

copyright 2023

Where there is wisdom, Revelation 17:10-11 establishes that the scarlet beast “was and is not” while the sixth king “is,” making it one of the fallen five and the revived eighth king. There are seven kings, of which five have already fallen, and one is presently ruling, with one yet to come. When the seventh king arrives, he will reign briefly, and then the scarlet beast that reigned before the sixth king will rise to become the eighth. The beast that was and is not is the eighth, one of the seven, specifically the fifth; the little horn is the beast that goes into perdition in Revelation when Daniel is held as the precedent in interpreting Revelation.

This passage in Revelation 17 challenges the preterist and futurist interpretations of Revelation. Preterists must show that in John's time, the first advent, there was an emperor who preceded a sixth one, suffered a deadly wound, and was revived as the eighth. No historical account supports the Roman emperors in such circumstances at Christ's first advent. On the other hand, futurists also assert the sixth king is of John's time and must show how their antichrist “was” before this first advent kingdom. All such explanations are fallacious and without merit. The passage is prefaced with the need for wisdom in discernment, which excludes the futurist's and preterists’ accounts.

The evidence that the woman sits upon seven mountains also ties the woman to the beasts in Daniel 7. Futurist John Walvoord concedes the true interpretation of the mountains even as he mistakenly holds the sixth king is of John’s time,

The seven heads of the beast, however, are said to be symbolic of seven kings described in verse 10. Five of these are said to have fallen, one is in contemporary existence, that is, in John’s lifetime, the seventh is yet to come and will be followed by another described as the eighth, which is the beast itself. In the Greek there is no word for “there,” thus translated literally, the phrase is “and are seven kings.” The seven heads are best explained as referring to seven kings who represent seven successive forms of the kingdom… The mountains, then, are not piles of material rocks and earth at all, but royal or imperial powers, declared to be such by the angel himself.[1]​


Walvoord affirms that the Greek has no word for “there,” which makes the heads and mountains also seven kings in the passage; the heads, mountains, and kings are appositives; John renames the kingdoms in Daniel 7 and prophesies there are seven in all, renaming them as seven heads and seven mountains and seven kings, but Walvoord incorrectly attempts to add Egypt and Assyria to Daniel’s count,

Thus, then, we ascertain and identify the sixth in the list, which shows what sort of kings the angel meant. Of the same class with this, and belonging to the same category, there are five others—five which had then already run their course and passed away. But what five imperial mountains like Rome had been and gone, up to that time? Is history so obscure as not to tell us with unmistakable certainty? Preceding Rome the world had but five great names or nationalities answering to imperial Rome, and those scarce a schoolboy ought to miss. They are Greece, Persia, Babylon, Assyria, and Egypt; no more, and no less. And these all were imperial powers like Rome.[2]​


Nevertheless, Daniel commences with the imperial power of Babylon, making Rome the fourth kingdom and the little horn the one whose dominion is taken away and given to the saints as a result of the judgment beforehand,

But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him. (Daniel 7:26-27)​


The preceding verses 23-25 affirm that the little horn’s dominion is taken and given to the saints at the “end,” establishing it as the fifth mountain or imperial power with its own dominion that supplants the fourth beast, Rome, after its fall.

Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. (Daniel 7:23-25)​


Not only does the little horn supplant the Roman empire, but it also endures until the saints receive their reward, which John prophesied as the last trumpet in Revelation 11:15-19. The circumstances support that the little horn in Daniel is the revived or ascended eighth king in Revelation 17. This also agrees with the scriptural and historical proof that the scarlet beast, the papacy, reigns before the sixth king and ascends as the eighth king. The papacy was wounded almost to death by Protestant liberalism that enriched the merchants. The papacy is the beast wars with Christ at his return in Revelation 19:19. One cannot devise a futurist or preterist narrative that accounts for the evidence the eighth king is one of the fallen five, insomuch as it “was and is not.”

[1] John F. Walvoord, Revelation (The John Walvoord Prophecy Commentaries), Moody Publishers; New edition, April 1, 2011), 255

[2] John F. Walvoord, The Revelation of Jesus Christ, 1966, by The Moody Bible Institute of Chicago




This post is a postscript to the book above, which is available here.